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johnMoss 09-06-2012 03:43 PM

How to find file where text element is stored?

Change a piece of text that belongs to a template.


I've gotten pretty savvy at tracking down pieces of code inside these joomla templates & changing as necessary. This one has me stumped... Is there a way to derive the precise file source for a string of text on a page? The page in question is a template obviously but it doesn't seem to be contained in the usual haunts in the file system.


1. In chrome, go to http://www.networkingeventfinders.com/new-york-networking-guide/newmembership

2. Scroll down to bottom of page where you see the Upgrade button...

3. Immediately above that you see monetary amounts & timeframes.

4. I need to change the timeframe descriptives, i.e change '1 mo' to 'mo', '1 yr' to 'yr'...

5. The monetary amounts are handled in the CMS admin. The timeframes are a piece of hard html code inside a default php template.

6. I am looking for that php template file to make these adjustments. Where it should be, and where I have gone before to edit items on that page, the text in question is not to be found.

7. With the chrome developer tools & utilizing the search option thereof, one of course gets taken straight to the code lines in question. Is there perhaps one additional tool I'm unaware of that can give me the file path reference from which this text is being pulled?

8. The site is hosted by host gator and they have a pretty handy file search tool, but it didn't find it either...

gentleone 09-06-2012 05:17 PM

It's been a while since I've worked on a Jooma! site, but there should be in admin on the page 'configuration' or something like that an option 'debug'. It's off by default, so you have to tick the checkbox. Once you done that and you go to the site and page in question If you hover over the text you will see a frame or indicator which tells you from which file that include comes.

Like I said it's been far too long to remember exactly, but I believe it was something like this.

gentleone 09-06-2012 05:18 PM

by the way... the includes are all dynamic content so you won't find out things with web developer or firebug.

domedia 09-06-2012 05:18 PM

Can you SSH to the hosting server?
If so, just search (grep) for the text you want to change.

johnMoss 09-06-2012 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by gentleone (Post 206021)
If you hover over the text you will see a frame or indicator which tells you from which file that include comes.

I couldn't get that functionality to work. The debug (J 1.5) does pull up reference info, but simply displays known backend modules, components & such. Specifically, when turned on, additional info is placed at the bottom of the screen, as below...


Originally Posted by domedia (Post 206023)
Can you SSH to the hosting server?
If so, just search (grep) for the text you want to change.

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johnMoss 09-06-2012 06:31 PM

I do indeed gather the text string in question is buried in a plug-in script file somewhere. All the purportedly obvious file paths lead to dead ends...

gentleone 09-06-2012 06:57 PM

No... debug is your best friend when working on a joomla! site. I could find all the files/includes with that. Without debug you're pretty much nowhere in Joomla!

domedia 09-06-2012 07:15 PM

And if you can't access the server through a console like Putty, you need to download the site and search locally.

gentleone 09-06-2012 07:27 PM

I will have a look for you how I did it on a Joomla site I did in the past. I'll let you know.

gentleone 09-06-2012 09:49 PM

I was wrong. What I meant was when I had to debug the Joomla! webshop module; VirtueMart. There you can hover over bits on a page to figure out where the include is coming from. The debug process like that was really like heaven, because VirtueMart was a horrible shopping cart. So, sorry... I mixed things up. .

Anyways. With Joomla! itself you just have to follow the paths from files which gets included or echoed to finally come to the right file. I know this can be tedious because you will have to follow includes within includes within includes. As far as I can see is there in 1.5 not really a helpful system to track down files.

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