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edbr
03-14-2012, 05:54 AM
Anyone help me re keyword search.
Ive been tinkering with my villa site as ive had a drop off of inquiries, heres what i cant find an answer too,
The gold ticket is Bali Villas i rank nowhere as it is highly competitive however balivillas i rank low but im there, similar with baliholidayvillas i rank 10 but bali holiday villas at 32

any idea why? the site is www.concord-bali-villas.com

johnMoss
03-16-2012, 06:17 AM
A few possibles?

1) Your URL could use Bali up front as opposed to following concord. Come up with something more search relevant?

2) Looking at your titling & desc. I felt it could use some changes, added below...

3) Although visually it's up top, the bots have to go as far as line 746 before hitting text. Maybe I'm wrong, I know they're going deeper into the page lately, but how far? Maybe a good idea to move the copy closer to the head in the script somehow?

4) I doubt it matters a lot, but the copy throughout the page is rife with grammatical errors. Use of syntax is off also.

Given the courtesies I've been given from the brass around here, I'm all too happy to pay it forward. I went in to your page and have made substantial copy edits. Have a looksee, re-edit as you deem necessary, and make sure it fits the page layout, I was careful to keep the character count very similar on any given line. I trust you'll find all in order & hope it helps...

P.S.
When I loaded this I exceeded the character limit by over a 1000. I'm putting the code in a second reply.

johnMoss
03-16-2012, 06:21 AM
Still gotta do two posts. Here's Line 1 through 500:

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karna<span><img src="images/karna/1t.jpg" alt="Villa karna" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Karna</b>
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Seminyak Bali Villas
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pantai-biru<span><img src="images/pantai-biru/1t.jpg" alt="Villa pantai-biru" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Pantai-Biru</b>
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Seminyak Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red">Beachfront</b></span></span></a>


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coco<span><img src="images/coco/1t.jpg" alt="Villa coco" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Coco</b>
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jajaliluna<span><img src="images/jajaliluna/1t.jpg" alt="Villa jajaliluna" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Jajaliluna</b>
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Seminyak Bali Villas
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satya<span><img src="images/satya/1t.jpg" alt="Villa satya" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Satya</b>
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Seminyak Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red"></b></span></span></a>


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youbi<span><img src="images/youbi/1t.jpg" alt="Villa youbi" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Youbi</b>
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Seminyak Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red"></b></span></span></a>


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amore<span><img src="images/amore/1t.jpg" alt="Villa amore" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Amore</b>
<br />
Seminyak Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red"></b></span></span></a>


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pyaar<span><img src="images/pyaar/1t.jpg" alt="Villa pyaar" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Pyaar</b>
<br />
Seminyak Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red"></b></span></span></a>


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cinta(2)<span><img src="images/cinta(2)/1t.jpg" alt="Villa cinta(2)" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Cinta(2)</b>
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Seminyak Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red"></b></span></span></a>


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aqua<span><img src="images/aqua/1t.jpg" alt="Villa aqua" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Aqua</b>
<br />
Seminyak Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red"></b></span></span></a>


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kebun<span><img src="images/kebun/1t.jpg" alt="Villa kebun" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Kebun</b>
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<br/><b class="red">2 bed only l:$325 h:$407</b></span></span></a>


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angels<span><img src="images/angels/1t.jpg" alt="Villa angels" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Angels</b>
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krisna<span><img src="images/krisna/1t.jpg" alt="Villa krisna" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Krisna</b>
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<br/><b class="red"></b></span></span></a>


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joss<span><img src="images/joss/1t.jpg" alt="Villa joss" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Joss</b>
<br />
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<br/><b class="red"></b></span></span></a>


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bali-seminyak<span><img src="images/bali-seminyak/1t.jpg" alt="Villa bali-seminyak" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Bali-Seminyak</b>
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Seminyak Bali Villas
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canthy<span><img src="images/canthy/1t.jpg" alt="Villa canthy" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Canthy</b>
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Seminyak Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red">Close to beach</b></span></span></a>


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damai-lestari<span><img src="images/damai-lestari/1t.jpg" alt="Villa damai-lestari" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Damai-Lestari</b>
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Seminyak Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red">15 min. walk from the beach</b></span></span></a>


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surga<span><img src="images/surga/1t.jpg" alt="Villa surga" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Surga</b>
<br />
Seminyak Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red">Close to the beach</b></span></span></a>
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<ul class="level2" > <li><h3 class="red"><b>Holiday Villas in Canggu</b></h3>
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inti<span><img src="images/inti/1t.jpg" alt=" Villa inti" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Inti</b>
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Canggu Bali Villas
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jembar-lawang<span><img src="images/jembar-lawang/1t.jpg" alt=" Villa jembar-lawang" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Jembar-Lawang</b>
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Canggu Bali Villas
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ombak-luwung<span><img src="images/ombak-luwung/1t.jpg" alt=" Villa ombak-luwung" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Ombak-Luwung</b>
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Canggu Bali Villas
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belong-dua<span><img src="images/belong-dua/1t.jpg" alt=" Villa belong-dua" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Belong-Dua</b>
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Canggu Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red"></b></span></span></a>


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semanpura<span><img src="images/semanpura/1t.jpg" alt=" Villa semanpura" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Semanpura</b>
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Canggu Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red">Beachview</b></span></span></a>


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mako<span><img src="images/mako/1t.jpg" alt=" Villa mako" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Mako</b>
<br />
Canggu Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red"></b></span></span></a>


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anthony-widiadari<span><img src="images/anthony-widiadari/1t.jpg" alt=" Villa anthony-widiadari" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Anthony-Widiadari</b>
<br />
Canggu Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red"></b></span></span></a>


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asana<span><img src="images/asana/1t.jpg" alt=" Villa asana" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Asana</b>
<br />
Canggu Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red"></b></span></span></a>

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<h3 class="red"><b>Holiday Villas in Sanur</b></h3>
<a href="villa_casis.html" class="submenu" >
casis<span><img src="images/casis/1t.jpg" alt="Villa casis" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Casis</b>
<br />
Sanur Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red"></b></span></span></a>


<a href="villa_sanur-residence.html" class="submenu" >
sanur-residence<span><img src="images/sanur-residence/1t.jpg" alt="Villa sanur-residence" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Sanur-Residence</b>
<br />
Sanur Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red">Beachfront</b></span></span></a>


<a href="villa_smara.html" class="submenu" >
smara<span><img src="images/smara/1t.jpg" alt="Villa smara" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Smara</b>
<br />
Sanur Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red">Beachfront</b></span></span></a>


<a href="villa_ylang-ylang.html" class="submenu" >
ylang-ylang<span><img src="images/ylang-ylang/1t.jpg" alt="Villa ylang-ylang" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Ylang-Ylang</b>
<br />
Sanur Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red"></b></span></span></a>


<a href="villa_pushpapuri.html" class="submenu" >
pushpapuri<span><img src="images/pushpapuri/1t.jpg" alt="Villa pushpapuri" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Pushpapuri</b>
<br />
Sanur Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red">Beachfront</b></span></span></a>


<p class="clear">&nbsp;</p>

<h3 class="red"><b>Holiday Villas in Ubud</b></h3>
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masari<span><img src="images/masari/1t.jpg" alt="Villa masari" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Masari</b>
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Ubud Bali Villas
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<a href="villa_awang-awang.html" class="submenu" >
awang-awang<span><img src="images/awang-awang/1t.jpg" alt="Villa awang-awang" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Awang-Awang</b>
<br />
Ubud Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red"></b></span></span></a>


<a href="villa_alamanda.html" class="submenu" >
alamanda<span><img src="images/alamanda/1t.jpg" alt="Villa alamanda" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Alamanda</b>
<br />
Ubud Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red"></b></span></span></a>


<a href="villa_samaki.html" class="submenu" >
samaki<span><img src="images/samaki/1t.jpg" alt="Villa samaki" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Samaki</b>
<br />
Ubud Bali Villas
<br/><b class="red">River and Valley View</b></span></span></a>

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<a href="uluwatu.html">Uluwatu</a>
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<li><h3 class="red"><b>Holiday Villas in Uluwatu</b></h3>
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<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Shanti</b>
<br />
Uluwatu</span></span></a><a href="villa_shanti.html" class="submenu" ><span class="splash"> Bali Villas </span></a><a href="villa_shanti.html" class="submenu" ><span><span class="splash"><br/>
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<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Istana</b>
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johnMoss
03-16-2012, 06:22 AM
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<a href="villa_karang-putih.html" class="submenu" >
karang-putih<span><img src="images/karang-putih/1t.jpg" alt="Villa karang-putih" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Karang-Putih</b>
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Uluwatu</span></span></a><a href="villa_karang-putih.html" class="submenu" ><span class="splash"> Bali Villas </span></a><a href="villa_karang-putih.html" class="submenu" ><span><span class="splash"><br/>
<b class="red">Clifftop Ocean View</b></span></span></a>


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<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Longhouse</b>
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Uluwatu</span></span></a><a href="villa_longhouse.html" class="submenu" ><span class="splash"> Bali Villas </span></a><a href="villa_longhouse.html" class="submenu" ><span><span class="splash"><br/>
<b class="red">ocean view</b></span></span></a>


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<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Dragonfly</b>
<br />
Uluwatu</span></span></a><a href="villa_dragonfly.html" class="submenu" ><span class="splash"> Bali Villas </span></a><a href="villa_dragonfly.html" class="submenu" ><span><span class="splash"><br/>
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<a href="villa_budda.html" class="submenu" >
budda<span><img src="images/budda/1t.jpg" alt="Villa budda" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Budda</b>
<br />
Uluwatu</span></span></a><a href="villa_budda.html" class="submenu" ><span class="splash"> Bali Villas </span></a><a href="villa_budda.html" class="submenu" ><span><span class="splash"><br/>
<b class="red">Ocean View</b></span></span></a>


<a href="villa_moyang.html" class="submenu" >
moyang<span><img src="images/moyang/1t.jpg" alt="Villa moyang" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Moyang</b>
<br />
Uluwatu</span></span></a><a href="villa_moyang.html" class="submenu" ><span class="splash"> Bali Villas </span></a><a href="villa_moyang.html" class="submenu" ><span><span class="splash"><br/>
<b class="red"></b></span></span></a>

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<li class="folder">
<a href="kerobokan.html">Kerobokan</a>
<ul class="level2">
<li><h3 class="red"><b>Holiday Villas in Kerobokan</b></h3>
<a href="villa_mapa-mundi.html" class="submenu">
mapa-mundi<span><img src="images/mapa-mundi/1t.jpg" alt="Villa mapa-mundi" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Mapa-Mundi</b>
<br />
Kerobokan</span></span></a><a href="villa_mapa-mundi.html" class="submenu" ><span class="splash"> Bali Villas </span></a><a href="villa_mapa-mundi.html" class="submenu"><span><span class="splash"><br/>
<b class="red"></b></span></span></a>


<a href="villa_taman-wana.html" class="submenu">
taman-wana<span><img src="images/taman-wana/1t.jpg" alt="Villa taman-wana" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Taman-Wana</b>
<br />
Kerobokan</span></span></a><a href="villa_taman-wana.html" class="submenu" ><span class="splash"> Bali Villas </span></a><a href="villa_taman-wana.html" class="submenu"><span><span class="splash"><br/>
<b class="red"></b></span></span></a>


<a href="villa_maharaj.html" class="submenu">
maharaj<span><img src="images/maharaj/1t.jpg" alt="Villa maharaj" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Maharaj</b>
<br />
Kerobokan</span></span></a><a href="villa_maharaj.html" class="submenu" ><span class="splash"> Bali Villas </span></a><a href="villa_maharaj.html" class="submenu"><span><span class="splash"><br/>
<b class="red"></b></span></span></a>


<a href="villa_senja.html" class="submenu">
senja<span><img src="images/senja/1t.jpg" alt="Villa senja" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Senja</b>
<br />
Kerobokan</span></span></a><a href="villa_senja.html" class="submenu" ><span class="splash"> Bali Villas </span></a><a href="villa_senja.html" class="submenu"><span><span class="splash"><br/>
<b class="red"></b></span></span></a>


<a href="villa_atas-ombak.html" class="submenu">
atas-ombak<span><img src="images/atas-ombak/1t.jpg" alt="Villa atas-ombak" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Atas-Ombak</b>
<br />
Kerobokan</span></span></a><a href="villa_atas-ombak.html" class="submenu" ><span class="splash"> Bali Villas </span></a><a href="villa_atas-ombak.html" class="submenu"><span><span class="splash"><br/>
<b class="red">Beachfront</b></span></span></a>


<a href="villa_bali-bali.html" class="submenu">
bali-bali<span><img src="images/bali-bali/1t.jpg" alt="Villa bali-bali" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Bali-Bali</b>
<br />
Kerobokan</span></span></a><a href="villa_bali-bali.html" class="submenu" ><span class="splash"> Bali Villas </span></a><a href="villa_bali-bali.html" class="submenu"><span><span class="splash"><br/>
<b class="red"></b></span></span></a>


<a href="villa_jasmine.html" class="submenu">
jasmine<span><img src="images/jasmine/1t.jpg" alt="Villa jasmine" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Jasmine</b>
<br />
Kerobokan</span></span></a><a href="villa_jasmine.html" class="submenu" ><span class="splash"> Bali Villas </span></a><a href="villa_jasmine.html" class="submenu"><span><span class="splash"><br/>
<b class="red">Walking Distance to Beach</b></span></span></a>

</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li class="folder">
<a href="tanah lot.html">Villa + Golf</a>
<ul class="level2">
<li><h3 class="red"><b>Holiday Villas at the stunning Greg Norman-designed golf course overlooking the Indian ocean</b></h3>
<a href="villa_bunda.html" class="submenu" >
bunda<span><img src="images/bunda/1t.jpg" alt="Villa bunda" />

<span class="splash"><b class="red">Villa Bunda</b>
<br />
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johnMoss
03-16-2012, 06:27 AM
The html tag refuses to work on the 2nd code post. Have tried 3 times.

johnMoss
03-16-2012, 06:32 AM
Can't make this puppy work... Send me an email & I'll send the file.

edbr
03-16-2012, 07:33 AM
thank you John i will do. although my point was why balivillas rank and bali villas not. baliholiday villas ranks way over bali holiday villas. its what i dont get

johnMoss
03-16-2012, 02:32 PM
Duh.... Linked In, I've got your email. Sent it to your Y account.

You say drop off in inquiries; similar pattern in your analytics? One guess is the latest algoritm tweaks Google have done are causing this. Digging into the page, you have a slew of no-follow tags on the links; a mis-interpretation going on here? To me a score of 10 on the baliholidayvilla only means hardly anyone is using it as a descriptive.
I've also heard, (but don't know for sure), hyphens in primary tags are frowned upon. Old wive's tale or real?

edbr
03-17-2012, 01:47 AM
thanks ill read through it later,

yes i know baliholidayvillas and balivillas are as much use as a rev counter ion a wheel barrow. I only even searched for them by accident. it just presented an odd question to me why on a site that nowhere has these words without spaces between them should even be there! fro instance the top ranking sites for this , some also appear in the concat search terms while some dont so its curious to me.
No follow links are changed recently on advice to limit number of internal links and being more selective about them to make google a happier bunny.

re hyphenation, ive seen all the arguments also but in a search for bali holiday villas or baliholidayvillas, hyphenated sites return higher, so even if because of more important factors I really dont think thats an issue personally.
Its a strange situation as bali villas is the holy cow of search terms of a highly subscribed business here in bali, my google analitics by the way have shown increased activity so as always its difficult to know which straw to grasp at, One crucial factor is that spenditure has dropped and and budgets are lower for holiday bookers, as well as a ridiculous number of hotels being constructed by Chinese money and have flooded the market, so many possible factors apply.
I am interested i your content placement comments actually , its a verbose menue but its there because wanting to get as much of the product on easy view from the get go, im thinking now if your comment has validity i may simply switch the menu to a right sidebar as opposed to left as a temporary experiment, so the links will appear after the content. also am reviewing the design at some point but am too involved in my real business at present.

dipster777
03-17-2012, 07:55 PM
Have you tried using SEO moz the free version helps you to get good insights, for example your page contains multiple h1's and h2's there is an onpage grader to help you through the basic steps.

give it a go and if you are still struggling let me know.

p.s the myth about - is exactly that Google just recognise it as a space you tube Matt cutts he is Googles representative who lets out info about Google for all us SEO"s out there.

edbr
03-18-2012, 01:08 AM
thanks and yes i do, but you got me embarrassed that i have multiple H1 tags. I dont so i dont have to bang my head against a solid object.
as for h2 tags i have 6 and h3 8. as far as ive read there's no conflict with this are you saying theres a limit ?

Matt cutts is good to check from time to time but frankly i wonder if he should be considered without some caution, I may be cynical but i wonder if there is a smell of google smoke being blown up selective orifices.

I thank you for your suggestions though Its good to have other viewpoints. and i just noticed a bunch of text i added is not there so i have obviously over saved an older version, not for the first time as i added it live on the server.

edbr
03-18-2012, 01:13 AM
just an added thought I am considering a domain move to a domain i have had for a while with a better name (no concord) but still hyphenated. i know it is claimed that a 301 will pass existing juice But do you lose on domain age and some links. Is this wise . love to hear some opinions on that

johnMoss
03-18-2012, 03:37 AM
Well the fact that you have a bunch of good content on the index page is a big plus in my book. I don't know specifically how far into the code they've set the bots to go, so general rule the higher the better SEO-wise. In the copy I sent you I did tone down here & there what I felt to be an overuse of keywords. You may opt to change a few things... The grammar is set to American English; if your customer base is predicated toward British English you might swap a few words back...

edbr
03-18-2012, 04:35 AM
right still havent had time to get to checking your suggestions but i will. my market is largely Australian, Asian and Europe notably dutch providing 25 % of visitors. but that's a whole different kettle of salted herrings.

Re keywords mostly these are generated dynamically re links so its not as simple as changing individually. I had in the past researched keyword repetitions and can see little if any penalty for over usage by google, infact I have changed ranking position considerably by changing them in the past. one example, i changed was a price per night on each villa on the links leading to a overuse of beds, per and night in keyword density which certainly gave me an unwanted item , similarly pernacht on the dutch version

johnMoss
03-19-2012, 01:03 PM
Just saw your URL thoughts. My vote is change it, definitely... Age is not helping in this case...

edbr
03-20-2012, 02:08 AM
thanks John, i'm still on the fence about it though. a couple of the best ranking sites for these keywords are Pambali and indovillas, i realise of course there success id not based on purely onpage , and a very succcssesful operator ranks nowhere ( with any) with balivillasworldwide. Biggest success comes from adwords for most

johnMoss
03-20-2012, 02:31 AM
Well one thing for sure; strongly advise you peruse the copy I sent you & plug it in... Good stuff. Not that I'm biased or anything :)

edbr
03-20-2012, 02:43 AM
i will john i have an enforced long weekend coming up the day of silence so i will get to it then i suspect

domedia
03-20-2012, 12:46 PM
i realise of course there success id not based on purely onpage That is an understatement.

edbr
03-21-2012, 01:19 AM
yes Dom im a very subtle guy, you probably noticed :)
It is all a interesting game playing with onpage but its real impact is overated i feel. especially by these online analising doofers, Dublin core? really?
"yes Virginia there is a river Liffey"

i rank ok on more niche terms but i just originally asked the question about the bali villas and balivillas difference as im curious why the second, useless phrase, returns my site

indeed some high rankers that return Bali villas also return and some dont , that is actually what i was asking about as i cant see a logic in it.

Re the high rankers for this i see several factors that have worked for then , more than one have Very strong authority back links (which is what ive let slide a lot), incl DMOZ good aged domains etc. one has a prolonged campaign of spamming forums blogs etc (which is annoying) the one i mentioned that has no ranking, infact has been penalised by Google in the past get good results although at the cost of between 1-2000$ a month with adsense.
Anyway that was what i was hoping for ideas on in fact.
Any thoughts Dom?

domedia
03-21-2012, 12:45 PM
I'm not sure about the difference in 'green widgets' and 'greenwidgets'. It's never come up as an issue for me, so I'm drawing a blank there.

In general, if you have a well formed, semantic document (looking at seoMoz is great advice), further on page optimization is going to give marginal results. The large weight of page rank does not come from there.

If you want to climb in the search result pages you have to focus your energy on off site stuff. Backlinks are key to how Google operates. It's the core of their PageRank algo, and is what set Google apart from the start. All modern search engines are following similar principles now.

So it seems at this point it's time to leave the code editor be, and work on your marketing. Get those strong backlinks, write a blog about hidden secrets in Bali, create the most amazing albums in Pinterest, where's your Facebook page, use Twitter to promote your blog posts, etc :)

edbr
03-22-2012, 01:33 AM
yes thanks sound advice. i still am curious about the as you put 'green widgets' and 'greenwidgets' its actually all im interested in being my original post.
I agree re seoMoz, which is why i have used it for a long time.
Bckliks are as you say crucial and is where ive dropped as many of my links were discredited by search engines. i let it slide as i get my inquiries fromother sources and other keywords that i do rank ok in but i agree its time to pay attention to it again.

other tools i like if any one is interested are
http://www.freewebsubmission.com/link-popularity.html for link pop check of yours and similar sites (3 at a time)

http://marketing.grader.com/ for a rundown on onsite stuff
I suppose woorank but it only allows a weekly report which can be annoying if you are tweaking.

these are just for rough guides not to be taken verbatim IMO

edbr
03-22-2012, 01:36 AM
i should also add SEO SERP Workbench which is what made me curious when i missed the space bar and added balivillas instead of bali villas and got a surprising result

samson smith
06-18-2013, 06:19 AM
A few possibles?

1) Your URL could use Bali up front as opposed to following concord. Come up with something more search relevant?

2) Looking at your titling & desc. I felt it could use some changes, added below...

3) Although visually it's up top, the bots have to go as far as line 746 before hitting text. Maybe I'm wrong, I know they're going deeper into the page lately, but how far? Maybe a good idea to move the copy closer to the head in the script somehow?

4) I doubt it matters a lot, but the copy throughout the page is rife with grammatical errors. Use of syntax is off also.

Given the courtesies I've been given from the brass around here, I'm all too happy to pay it forward. I went in to your page and have made substantial copy edits. Have a looksee, re-edit as you deem necessary, and make sure it fits the page layout, I was careful to keep the character count very similar on any given line. I trust you'll find all in order & hope it helps...

P.S.
When I loaded this I exceeded the character limit by over a 1000. I'm putting the code in a second reply.
Very helpful information....