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JulieG
05-16-2011, 08:20 PM
Both myself and a friend are using Dreamweaver CS3 to update a website. I am using Windows XP and she is on Windows 7 if that makes any difference, she also has a larger screen than I do, I think 21".

If I do a new page or an update to an existing page, and she checks it in IE, the text is quite often out of line and photos are not centralised. I started a new page today with two columns and instead of some text consisting of four or five words in each of the columns, she could see just one word per column and it was all listed on top of each other. When she 'got' the page via dreamweaver it was not centralised and generally all over the place, if that makes sense.

Why would we be seeing two different things, as I dont know if what I am doing is right, as it is ok my end, but not what she is seeing?

johnMoss
05-16-2011, 08:29 PM
What version of IE are each of you using? The different OS' are a factor, but IE version is a bigger one... Lets start with that...

JulieG
05-16-2011, 08:33 PM
We are both on AOL for our main ISP and use Windows IE.

johnMoss
05-16-2011, 08:47 PM
Yes, but what "version" of IE? IE 6, 7 , 8 ,9 .... What you are in the midst of learning right now is IE issues... Draw your sword and prepare to do battle, many headaches await you.... :)

DWcourse
05-16-2011, 10:31 PM
It could simply be a matter of your having your font size set differently in your browsers.

domedia
05-17-2011, 03:10 PM
It could simply be a matter of your having your font size set differently in your browsers.
That was my thought too. Either that or a mix of absolute positioning with relative widths.

If you can provide a URL, we can eliminate the (more or less) blind guessing.

JulieG
05-17-2011, 04:51 PM
I am using IE version 8. Will have to check, she thinks maybe 8 or 9. Not sure on font size, how do I find that out?

This is our website
www.collienet.com (http://www.collienet.com)

Just to clarify the problem, this is what I uploaded and what I could see on IE

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w157/julie22_photos/ok1.jpg

This is what my friend could see

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w157/julie22_photos/crap1.jpg

DWcourse
05-17-2011, 05:26 PM
That doesn't look like a font size issue and it doesn't look anything like the page I see when I click your link.

JulieG
05-17-2011, 06:04 PM
Looks like she is on MSN IE and I am on Windows as she doesnt have the same options on Tools to check the font as I do, she also thinks she has updated to IE version 9, whereas I am on version 8.

But how would this make a difference, how do we know what our viewers are seeing?

JulieG
05-17-2011, 06:06 PM
That doesn't look like a font size issue and it doesn't look anything like the page I see when I click your link.

The link for the page that we were working on is here.

http://www.collienet.com/showresults/breeds%20clubs%20from%2003/northum%20and%20durham/chmay2011.html

DWcourse
05-17-2011, 09:11 PM
Sorry to say this but you really need to learn a bit about HTML and CSS your page structure is needlessly complex: spans within paragraphs within divs within table cells. There's no logic and that makes it hard to debug.

JulieG
05-18-2011, 04:48 AM
My friend has been doing websites for 10 years or so. We have only inserted a table with two columns for show results, and I am unsure what you mean by it being too complex?

Another link below shows a page that wasnt lined up via her IE, but ok for me. When she picked it up via Dreamweaver by 'getting' the page, it wasnt centralised, but when she moved a photo it all moved. Yet when I created the page and added the photo it was ok and no different after she had adjusted it.

http://www.collienet.com/showresults/breeds%20clubs%20from%2003/smooth%20cc%20of%20gb/may2011open.html

d a v e
05-18-2011, 06:00 AM
nice dogs!

would you mind if i made a suggestion about your photos?

they are good quality but they would look even better if they had some breathing room: a margin of about 10% around the dog and look out for posts and things in the background ;)

e.g. this image (with the post removed)
http://gekkoweb.com/stuff/manordeifisatindoll.jpg

domedia
05-18-2011, 12:58 PM
When she picked it up via Dreamweaver by 'getting' the page, it wasnt centralised, but when she moved a photo it all moved.
Maybe some of the confusion lies in here. Can you rephrase this?

DWcourse
05-18-2011, 02:39 PM
Here's an example

<span class="style9">Anyone placed who would like a photo of their dog added to the results <br />
please send to <a href="mailto:collienet2000@aol.com">collienetads@aol.com<br />
</a>We would also be happy to add the judges critique.</span><br />
<br />
<span class="style14">SMOOTH COLLIES</span></p>
<table width="80%" border="1" align="center">
<tr>
<td width="50%" height="88" valign="top"><div align="center">
<p><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS">Minor Puppy Dog<br />
No Entries<br />
<br />
Puppy Dog<br />

You have style classes named style9, style10 etc. which is usually an indication of using Dreamweaver CS3 without really understanding CSS Styles and how that version of DW creates them). The use of the span tags isn't really necessary here, the div is redundant, you're using double line breaks instead of paragraphs, the font tag has been deprecated, etc.

JulieG
05-18-2011, 03:09 PM
Maybe some of the confusion lies in here. Can you rephrase this?

Synchronising, as in one of us 'get' the page the other has downloaded onto remote?

domedia
05-18-2011, 03:50 PM
Synchronising, as in one of us 'get' the page the other has downloaded onto remote?

So why wouldn't both of you just look at the same URL, instead of downloading the files?

JulieG
05-18-2011, 04:26 PM
So why wouldn't both of you just look at the same URL, instead of downloading the files?

If one of us has updated a page, the other person needs to get the page from remote for future updates, otherwise we are going to end up with different files.

We are both checking the same URL, this is part of the problem, what I see via IE, is not what she sees, and when she downloads the page, it isnt the same as what I have uploaded.

DWcourse
05-18-2011, 04:40 PM
when she downloads the page, it isnt the same as what I have uploaded.

Then I suspect one of you has your site set up incorrectly and you aren't uploading to the same directory.

JulieG
05-18-2011, 05:11 PM
Then I suspect one of you has your site set up incorrectly and you aren't uploading to the same directory.

I also think something is wrong with the set up, how would we rectify this?

However, I dont understand how I can see one thing in IE, and she can see another.

domedia
05-18-2011, 05:27 PM
The most important asset of a web designer is to know how browsers work.
There's really no shortcut to it, just testing and building up your experience.
It will help greatly though if you would base it on web standards.

JulieG
05-18-2011, 06:09 PM
The most important asset of a web designer is to know how browsers work.
There's really no shortcut to it, just testing and building up your experience.
It will help greatly though if you would base it on web standards.

I am still learning, I thought someone would be able to help me. Perhaps I dont explain the problem clearly enough. I am sorry I dont know what you mean by web standards.

d a v e
05-18-2011, 07:34 PM
some starting points
http://www.w3schools.com/
http://www.htmldog.com
http://www.opera.com/company/education/curriculum/

JulieG
05-18-2011, 08:24 PM
some starting points
http://www.w3schools.com/
http://www.htmldog.com
http://www.opera.com/company/education/curriculum/

Thanks, for these.

I guess no one can help answer my original question.
:sad:

JulieG
05-18-2011, 08:26 PM
nice dogs!

would you mind if i made a suggestion about your photos?

they are good quality but they would look even better if they had some breathing room: a margin of about 10% around the dog and look out for posts and things in the background ;)

e.g. this image (with the post removed)
http://gekkoweb.com/stuff/manordeifisatindoll.jpg

We do remove things like 'leads' and background obstructions like posts etc, if asked. But they are mostly photos of dogs in a natural environment, without being touched up.

domedia
05-18-2011, 09:32 PM
Thanks, for these.

I guess no one can help answer my original question.
:sad:
It's just really hard if we cannot replicate the issue.