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MarvelMarcus
07-20-2009, 02:20 PM
ok i want to design a website but i wanna get a coming soon page designed while i am worknig on my products for my site.

what is the best way to do this ?

where do i begin?

how can i get the surfers email address to let them know that the site is up and running?

and last but not least a kool hit counter (maybe even a personalized 1 if poss)

give me ideas guys

Thanks

MM:mrgreen:

Corrosive
07-20-2009, 02:32 PM
ok i want to design a website but i wanna get a coming soon page designed while i am worknig on my products for my site.

what is the best way to do this ?

where do i begin?

I'd just set up a splash page, a little bit about what is 'coming soon' in HTML text. Just to wet the appetite of whoever comes to your site.

how can i get the surfers email address to let them know that the site is up and running?

Try inserting a mailchimp.com sign up form. They are easy to create once you have an account and it will be the start of your mailing list for when your site is up and running.

and last but not least a kool hit counter (maybe even a personalized 1 if poss)

No such thing, hit counters are very 1999 IMO. If you want web stats then your host should provide these. Otherwise, for who's benefit is the counter??

MarvelMarcus
07-20-2009, 02:47 PM
I'd just set up a splash page, a little bit about what is 'coming soon' in HTML text. Just to wet the appetite of whoever comes to your site.



Try inserting a mailchimp.com sign up form. They are easy to create once you have an account and it will be the start of your mailing list for when your site is up and running.



No such thing, hit counters are very 1999 IMO. If you want web stats then your host should provide these. Otherwise, for who's benefit is the counter??

thanks bro that was quick well thanks for all that info i am gonna make a diary wen i start creating it on here to, but the hit counter was for me and for other people to see how many people has blessed the site with thier presents lol

do u mind if i ask u questions thru your mail box if it gets to much 2 put on here or shud i just use the forum?

Peace

MM

Thanks Again

Corrosive
07-20-2009, 03:39 PM
Hit counter might look good when you have 10,000 visitors. Maybe not so good if you have ten! I'd avoid it if I were you but feel free to ignore me :wink:

I'd rather you asked questions in the forum as others may benefit from the answers. I can't do personal consultations I'm afraid.

MarvelMarcus
07-20-2009, 04:05 PM
Hit counter might look good when you have 10,000 visitors. Maybe not so good if you have ten! I'd avoid it if I were you but feel free to ignore me :wink:

I'd rather you asked questions in the forum as others may benefit from the answers. I can't do personal consultations I'm afraid.


bluddy hell mate i dident think of that thanks

i cud just manually enter the hit amount my self i suppose wen it get hi enuff lol

cheers bro.

where the best place to grab the basic's of dream weaver for a shopping site? here else were u tube any directions will be appreciated

Thanks

MM

ps can i add u as a friend? and wat do u do for a living?:mrgreen:

Corrosive
07-20-2009, 04:32 PM
where the best place to grab the basic's of dream weaver for a shopping site? here else were u tube any directions will be appreciated

I'd look at some of the open source shopping cart solutions out there. Look for hosting with Fantastico and you can 'point and click' install carts like Zencart or OSCommerce. Building a cart from scratch with DW is a very big project!

ps can i add u as a friend? and wat do u do for a living?:mrgreen:

Of course and errrm...web designer :wink:

MarvelMarcus
08-07-2009, 12:01 AM
This gonna sound really stupid but where do i start?:confused:

MM

cocoonfx
08-07-2009, 01:18 AM
Do as corrosive recommends building from scratch will be a steep learning curve. OS Commerce is a good cart you can also amend the layout and install add ons.

Corrosive
08-07-2009, 06:53 AM
Start with finding a Fantastico host (we us eukhost.com) and then install your chosen shopping cart...As cocconfx says, OS Commerce is a good one. Have you bought any hosting yet?

MarvelMarcus
08-07-2009, 10:12 AM
no i havent dont bugger all except sketch the site.

MM

Corrosive
08-07-2009, 11:09 AM
no i havent dont bugger all except sketch the site.

MM

That's as good a place as any to start. The amount of people who don't sketch stuff and then get tied in knots is quite staggering. Have a look at the hosts I recommended and then work from there. What are you planning to sell btw? You can PM me if that is sensitive info :wink:

MarvelMarcus
08-07-2009, 02:30 PM
That's as good a place as any to start. The amount of people who don't sketch stuff and then get tied in knots is quite staggering. Have a look at the hosts I recommended and then work from there. What are you planning to sell btw? You can PM me if that is sensitive info :wink:

you know what mate i dont have a clue what BTW stands for, but i will be selling clothes (MY own line to be specific:lol: ).

So find a Host to Host my site is my next step:mrgreen:

MM

Corrosive
08-07-2009, 05:40 PM
you know what mate i dont have a clue what BTW stands for, but i will be selling clothes (MY own line to be specific:lol: ).

So find a Host to Host my site is my next step:mrgreen:

MM

BTW = By The Way :wink: Cool site idea and a good way to launch your own clothes. Hit us back if you need help.

MarvelMarcus
08-10-2009, 10:54 PM
Cheers Bro

I like the look of this site ( http://www.bbcicecream.com/ )
How easy would it be to recreate something like this?

I like the idea of putting up a power point presentation like a billboard kinda style, how easy would that be and can it be done?

ThanKs

MM

edbr
08-11-2009, 01:53 AM
thats a flash movie. i am not sure but i think there maybe some powerpoint to flash converters around. or maybe i dreamt it :)

Corrosive
08-11-2009, 06:40 AM
Cheers Bro

I like the look of this site ( http://www.bbcicecream.com/ )
How easy would it be to recreate something like this?

I like the idea of putting up a power point presentation like a billboard kinda style, how easy would that be and can it be done?

ThanKs

MM

In all honesty you might be aiming a bit high if this is your first site and you are building it yourself. I'd stick to a static HTML and CSS based site at the moment.

MarvelMarcus
08-12-2009, 02:44 PM
ok Cheers guys well i wanted to know how much would a average web designer charge me for sumthing i am after?

I have to aim high mate or i wont hit those stars :lol: lol

Thanks All
MM

MarvelMarcus
08-13-2009, 01:01 AM
while i am making changes to my coming soon page design i been checking out hosting.

(what do you guys think of WWW.JUSTHOST.COM)

edbr
08-13-2009, 05:04 AM
yes its another hoster ??
it doesnt answer how is there support, hows the up time, if its shared hosting whats there record like for getting listed for spam.
sorry but ive seen a lot of promises you need to ask some one who has actually used them

Corrosive
08-13-2009, 06:34 AM
I'd still look at eukhost.com if I were you. I can actually vouch that they are very good.

cocoonfx
08-13-2009, 08:12 AM
use my web hosting package. www.cocoonfxmedia.co.uk 100% uptime.

Corrosive
08-13-2009, 12:54 PM
use my web hosting package. www.cocoonfxmedia.co.uk 100% uptime.

This is a good idea Marcus. Cocconfx has the Cpanel hosting you need to install a shopping cart. Maybe you two should have a chat :)

cocoonfx
08-13-2009, 04:22 PM
Cheers mate....


My hosting supports, wordpress, zencart,oscommerce etc.. etc... dead easy to install if you know how.... :mrgreen:

MarvelMarcus
08-14-2009, 11:15 AM
Cheers Mate.. i sent you a message.

going to check EUKHOst.com and Cooconfx later on because at work they seem to have blocked all hosting sites.

I know paypals details

Paypal:

There are no set-up charges, monthly fees or cancellation charges for Website Payments Standard.
Transaction charges are 1.4-3.4% plus 20p, depending on sales volume (see table below for more details).

does the payment go stright into your account using paypal? i am sure it does

what other methods are available to take payments online and how much do they charge you?

Thanks Guys this site is helping me alot belive that

Marcus

cocoonfx
08-14-2009, 11:28 AM
Paypal the money goes to your account, you then can transfer for free upto 500 a month to a bank account.

Other payment not sure i stick with paypal as it simple and easy.

MarvelMarcus
08-14-2009, 11:59 AM
Paypal the money goes to your account, you then can transfer for free upto 500 a month to a bank account.

Other payment not sure i stick with paypal as it simple and easy.


Cheers i would like to stick with that is well but i found out that 30% of my target audience dont have paypal accounts, so what s the best way to target that 30%?

Marcus

cocoonfx
08-14-2009, 12:07 PM
Where you getting your stats from? so 70% of your market has paypal and your worrying about 30%, to be this is a no brainer at the moment your worrying about 30% of nothing. Paypal accept credit cards and also if your online it take 3 minutes to setup an account.

Corrosive
08-14-2009, 12:35 PM
If you set up say Zencart using CF's hosting then you can get an account with someone like 'NoChex'. Accept payments that way.

MarvelMarcus
08-14-2009, 01:24 PM
Where you getting your stats from? so 70% of your market has paypal and your worrying about 30%, to be this is a no brainer at the moment your worrying about 30% of nothing. Paypal accept credit cards and also if your online it take 3 minutes to setup an account.
I asked 150 people when i was doing research. i want every one to be able to get there hands on my goods nmot just paypal users.

If you set up say Zencart using CF's hosting then you can get an account with someone like 'NoChex'. Accept payments that way.

cheers gonna have a look into Nochex

cheers

cocoonfx
08-14-2009, 01:35 PM
Paypal have over 100 million users. More than the whole UK population. Who is your target market.

MarvelMarcus
08-14-2009, 02:50 PM
Paypal have over 100 million users. More than the whole UK population. Who is your target market.

Thanks:roll:

Urban Underground market lol

Belive me mate I know what i am talking about even dow you may not get it or think i am stupid.

I got a good idea and motive for what i am gonna sell and where i am gonna sell it and my target market.

MM

PS
does anyone know how to change the title of a thread? lol (my spelling mistake is really annoying)

domedia
08-14-2009, 03:55 PM
Belive me mate I know what i am talking about even dow you may not get it or think i am stupid.
Did you understand that people without Paypal accounts can purchase your goods through Paypal?

Another option for you, since you're already in a creative environment with creating t-shirts, is finding someone in your community that is a web designer, that is willing to help you our professionally with this project.

edbr
08-15-2009, 02:41 AM
try yahogling payment gateways, but frankly i would say paypal is the most known and trusted
and they wouldnt need paypal accounts but would need credit cards.
you could look at making a page with your bank account info with a confirmation of payment sent so punters could make bank transfers. This is not great but is used here in Indonesia for example, where a large portion of the population dont use credit cards , although cant see that being a big prob for you in UK

cocoonfx
08-15-2009, 07:48 AM
I think to be honest MM has done a snapshot of his mates and some people who are in is target market taken the assumption that he has to hit 100% of his target audience. The question is what percentage of the retail market does his product hold and of the percentage what percentage holds credit cards and paypal accounts.

The other issue is on day 1 of the launch of the website is it going to hit 100% of its target market? probably not.

It good he has done this but to be honest it could be a waste alot of time worrying about which payment gateway is best used. Use the one most used payment gateway and then get the site built. Then review the sites success over the first 3 months and adapt and change accordingly to the markets trends.

MarvelMarcus
08-17-2009, 11:21 PM
I think to be honest MM has done a snapshot of his mates and some people who are in is target market taken the assumption that he has to hit 100% of his target audience. The question is what percentage of the retail market does his product hold and of the percentage what percentage holds credit cards and paypal accounts.

The other issue is on day 1 of the launch of the website is it going to hit 100% of its target market? probably not.

It good he has done this but to be honest it could be a waste alot of time worrying about which payment gateway is best used. Use the one most used payment gateway and then get the site built. Then review the sites success over the first 3 months and adapt and change accordingly to the markets trends.

Thanks for your input mate, (done my homework) but like wat you sed up there (" Then review the sites success over the first 3 months and adapt and change accordingly to the markets trends.) is what i though about doing n e way i was just being extra lol

I am an alien to dream weaver:confused:

I made a new folder with the site name. and defined the folder in DW.

I also made a Index.html file in the folder to.

am i on the right track?

I got my sketch of how i want every thing but where do i start?

MM

Corrosive
08-18-2009, 06:48 AM
I also made a Index.html file in the folder to.



Just to be really picky but try and use all lower case letters in page names. index.html would be better. Now you need to go an learn some web design/CSS/HTML...maybe a little PHP or Javascript. You need to get your head around a lot of stuff before diving in with your website :)

MarvelMarcus
08-20-2009, 08:15 AM
Just to be really picky but try and use all lower case letters in page names. index.html would be better. Now you need to go an learn some web design/CSS/HTML...maybe a little PHP or Javascript. You need to get your head around a lot of stuff before diving in with your website :)

i watched a bit of dreamweaver essentials last night from lynda it really opened my eyes and i havs a clue about css and html now but my mind still cant get around how to make the navigation bar(buttons etc) lol

any one got n e links to other tutorials or kno books to help me along my way?

ps gonna finish of the lynda thing tonight just found dynamic dreamweaver 2 from lynda is well.

Peace

MM

domedia
08-20-2009, 05:20 PM
The adobe site has some really nice tutorials. Make sure you read the manual as well.

MarvelMarcus
08-23-2009, 04:42 PM
ok i have grabbed this monkey by the tail. i have my layout of my site how i want it and got grey boxes where my art and txt are gonna be.

Well keep posting on my progress

ps n e one know how i can correct the name of this thread?

Peace

MM

MarvelMarcus
08-23-2009, 08:50 PM
ok i managed to make my layout using div's, I also designed a lil mark up header art work and make a navigation bar with rollovers now i am encountering 2 problems:

i cant preview in my web browser from DW (update copy on testing server click yes then i get then put dependent files? yes then unable to connect what stupid thing am i doing wrong lol)

I wanted to place all my existing div layouts in a big div that will center every thing when previewed in my browser but i followed the instructions from here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX9k1XDc37M) and think i am doing it wrong or placing the div codes in the wrong place any help guys? (the tutorial is a bit blurry so i cant follow it properly)

Peace

MM

Corrosive
08-24-2009, 01:03 PM
ok i managed to make my layout using div's, I also designed a lil mark up header art work and make a navigation bar with rollovers now i am encountering 2 problems:

i cant preview in my web browser from DW (update copy on testing server click yes then i get then put dependent files? yes then unable to connect what stupid thing am i doing wrong lol)

I wanted to place all my existing div layouts in a big div that will center every thing when previewed in my browser but i followed the instructions from here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX9k1XDc37M) and think i am doing it wrong or placing the div codes in the wrong place any help guys? (the tutorial is a bit blurry so i cant follow it properly)

Peace

MM

Try this...

http://www.dreamweaverclub.com/css-center-content.php

Rather than a blurry tutorial! I would be careful of some of the stuff on youtube. Bear in mind that no one quality/sense checks any of it so you could be following anything!!

MarvelMarcus
08-24-2009, 06:16 PM
Try this...

http://www.dreamweaverclub.com/css-center-content.php

Rather than a blurry tutorial! I would be careful of some of the stuff on youtube. Bear in mind that no one quality/sense checks any of it so you could be following anything!!

i know youtube is a bit naf but hey it helped me , i dont get where to place the tags on my page

here's my code(
<style type="text/css">
<!--
#header {
position:absolute;
width:990px;
height:200px;
z-index:1;
left: 10px;
top: 12px;
background: url(headertemp.jpg);
border-style: none;
border-color: #F00;
}

#nav {
position:absolute;
left:10px;
top:218px;
width:990px;
height:80px;
z-index:2;
background-color: #000000;
text-align: center;
}
#content {
position:absolute;
left:11px;
top:306px;
width:990px;
height:251px;
z-index:3;
background-color: #FF00FF;
}
body {
background-color: #000;
}
-->
</style>
<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
function MM_preloadImages() { //v3.0
var d=document; if(d.images){ if(!d.MM_p) d.MM_p=new Array();
var i,j=d.MM_p.length,a=MM_preloadImages.arguments; for(i=0; i<a.length; i++)
if (a[i].indexOf("#")!=0){ d.MM_p[j]=new Image; d.MM_p[j++].src=a[i];}}
}

function MM_findObj(n, d) { //v4.01
var p,i,x; if(!d) d=document; if((p=n.indexOf("?"))>0&&parent.frames.length) {
d=parent.frames[n.substring(p+1)].document; n=n.substring(0,p);}
if(!(x=d[n])&&d.all) x=d.all[n]; for (i=0;!x&&i<d.forms.length;i++) x=d.forms[i][n];
for(i=0;!x&&d.layers&&i<d.layers.length;i++) x=MM_findObj(n,d.layers[i].document);
if(!x && d.getElementById) x=d.getElementById(n); return x;
}

function MM_nbGroup(event, grpName) { //v6.0
var i,img,nbArr,args=MM_nbGroup.arguments;
if (event == "init" && args.length > 2) {
if ((img = MM_findObj(args[2])) != null && !img.MM_init) {
img.MM_init = true; img.MM_up = args[3]; img.MM_dn = img.src;
if ((nbArr = document[grpName]) == null) nbArr = document[grpName] = new Array();
nbArr[nbArr.length] = img;
for (i=4; i < args.length-1; i+=2) if ((img = MM_findObj(args[i])) != null) {
if (!img.MM_up) img.MM_up = img.src;
img.src = img.MM_dn = args[i+1];
nbArr[nbArr.length] = img;
} }
} else if (event == "over") {
document.MM_nbOver = nbArr = new Array();
for (i=1; i < args.length-1; i+=3) if ((img = MM_findObj(args[i])) != null) {
if (!img.MM_up) img.MM_up = img.src;
img.src = (img.MM_dn && args[i+2]) ? args[i+2] : ((args[i+1])? args[i+1] : img.MM_up);
nbArr[nbArr.length] = img;
}
} else if (event == "out" ) {
for (i=0; i < document.MM_nbOver.length; i++) {
img = document.MM_nbOver[i]; img.src = (img.MM_dn) ? img.MM_dn : img.MM_up; }
} else if (event == "down") {
nbArr = document[grpName];
if (nbArr)
for (i=0; i < nbArr.length; i++) { img=nbArr[i]; img.src = img.MM_up; img.MM_dn = 0; }
document[grpName] = nbArr = new Array();
for (i=2; i < args.length-1; i+=2) if ((img = MM_findObj(args[i])) != null) {
if (!img.MM_up) img.MM_up = img.src;
img.src = img.MM_dn = (args[i+1])? args[i+1] : img.MM_up;
nbArr[nbArr.length] = img;
} }
}
//-->
</script>
</head>

<body onLoad="MM_preloadImages('homeroll.jpg','blogroll.jpg','sh oproll.jpg','contactrolls.jpg','mailinglistroll.jp g')">
<div>




<div id="layout">







<div id="nav">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tr>
<td><a href="javascript:;" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','home','',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','home','homeroll.jpg','',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="home.jpg" alt="" name="home" width="86" height="80" border="0" id="home" onload="" /></a></td>
<td><a href="javascript:;" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','blog','',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','blog','blogroll.jpg','',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="blog.jpg" alt="" name="blog" width="88" height="80" border="0" id="blog" onload="" /></a></td>
<td><a href="javascript:;" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','shop','',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','shop','shoproll.jpg','',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="shop.jpg" alt="" name="shop" width="91" height="80" border="0" id="shop" onload="" /></a></td>
<td><a href="javascript:;" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','musicevent','',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','musicevent','eventsmusicroll.jp g','',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="eventsmusic.jpg" alt="" name="musicevent" width="242" height="80" border="0" id="musicevent" onload="" /></a></td>
<td><a href="javascript:;" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','mailinglist','',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','mailinglist','mailinglistroll.j pg','',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="mailinglist.jpg" alt="" name="mailinglist" width="238" height="80" border="0" id="mailinglist" onload="" /></a></td>
<td><a href="javascript:;" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','contact','',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','contact','contactrolls.jpg','', 1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="contact.jpg" alt="" name="contact" border="0" id="contact" onload="" /></a></td>
</tr>
</table>
</div>
<div id="content"></div>
<div>
<div id="header"></div>
</div>

</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>

)))

where bouts does the div codes go to centre the whole page layout?

and what about fixing the preview in browser ?


Thanks

MM

Corrosive
08-24-2009, 06:36 PM
The 'wrapper' div (as describe in the tutorial) goes after your opening body tag and before your closing body tag. You have an interesting mix of absolute positioning and tables in that code as well...a YouTube suggestion by any chance??

As for previewing in browser, if you have no PHP then just press F12 and don't bother setting up a testing server. If you do have PHP then follow the tutorial on this website about installing WAMP.

MarvelMarcus
08-24-2009, 11:24 PM
The 'wrapper' div (as describe in the tutorial) goes after your opening body tag and before your closing body tag. You have an interesting mix of absolute positioning and tables in that code as well...a YouTube suggestion by any chance??

As for previewing in browser, if you have no PHP then just press F12 and don't bother setting up a testing server. If you do have PHP then follow the tutorial on this website about installing WAMP.


"You have an interesting mix of absolute positioning and tables in that code as well...a YouTube suggestion by any chance??" lol tell me whats wrong with it

i was practicing lol

domedia
08-25-2009, 12:07 AM
Good practice is to use web standards and float elements to help out in the layout. Not to say that absolutely positioned elements does not have it place, but probably not in overall layout but for smaller elements. Tables for sure has no place as a tool for layout, it's for displaying tabular data. As Corrosive said, youTube is probably not the best place to look for tutorials. Try Adobe.com

SaSync
08-25-2009, 07:09 AM
HiI would like to have another text box text block like the recomended sites in main page, but dont know where to startI would appreciate any helpThanxHani

domedia
08-25-2009, 03:36 PM
Sasync,
start you own thread please. Welcome to the forum!