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Corrosive
05-22-2009, 01:22 PM
Just wanted to take a quick survey about IE6 and whether we care any more. It is full of security holes, it doesn't display anything as it should and it doesn't even have tabbed browsing! Are you still building with it in mind?

Any stats or figures anyone can add would be great...

Corrosive
05-22-2009, 02:02 PM
Just to add fuel to the fire. Two sites to check out :wink:

http://www.saveie6.com
http://www.ie6update.com

d a v e
05-22-2009, 02:35 PM
i was just reading this today
http://forabeautifulweb.com/blog/about/universal_internet_explorer_6_css/

Corrosive
05-22-2009, 02:50 PM
i was just reading this today
http://forabeautifulweb.com/blog/about/universal_internet_explorer_6_css/

Great link. I'll have to delve into that a bit more. Thanks dave

cocoonfx
05-22-2009, 03:29 PM
Yes i am still considering IE. From experience only a few people really know how to upgrade browsers and very few people i know even know or use the auto updates from mircosoft... If i ask some what browser there using they say i have no clue. Whats a browser... i even asked someone at work to open excel and they've never know what it was or did even though they worked in an office....

Corrosive
05-22-2009, 03:33 PM
i even asked someone at work to open excel and they've never know what it was or did even though they worked in an office....

Now that is scary!!!

What was the earliest version of Windows to ship with IE7? Anyone know?

davidj
05-22-2009, 05:49 PM
our corporate browser is IE6!

DWcourse
05-22-2009, 05:54 PM
I still consider IE6 but I'll but up with a lot of minor issues there that I would fix for any other browser.

edbr
05-23-2009, 01:15 AM
i was thinking that i might add a javascript alert if ie6, "if this alert annoys you its because you really need to update your browser as this is annoying to me
please do it while im at a villa opening" or something like it

Corrosive
05-23-2009, 05:58 AM
Try this then Ed...

http://www.ie6update.com

d a v e
05-23-2009, 06:53 AM
Try this then Ed...

http://www.ie6update.com

that's a great idea for people sitting at home who should have updated ages ago but what about people in third world/underdeveloped countries that have no resources to update? what about the corporate world locked into IE6 by their IT department? or libraries/internet cafes with ie6 that the user has no control over? not to mention other government institutions like schools still living in the dark ages with ie6?
i'm all for ie6 going but while it's still hanging around then i just make sure that the user can use all of the functionality of the site - and not worry too much about it looking exactly the same

Corrosive
05-23-2009, 07:27 AM
What about the corporate world locked into IE6 by their IT department?

This is the truly scary part. We still have copies of IE 5.5 floating around! We have mandatory CBT (computer based training) courses that staff have to complete to be legally allowed to do their jobs. They re-designed the courses 18 months ago and they won't display at all on IE 5.5. I pointed this out and that having staff using the browser was a security threat anyway but was told that I'd need to get Director sign-off to get them upgraded... Absolute madness... and it isn't a small company I work for by any means.

DWcourse
05-23-2009, 12:41 PM
i just make sure that the user can use all of the functionality of the site - and not worry too much about it looking exactly the same
I think that's the key!

d a v e
05-23-2009, 03:52 PM
i still support netscape 4 too! nah just kidding; but look how long it took for that to disappear up its own bottom :)

Rob_Che
05-23-2009, 09:45 PM
Try this then Ed...

http://www.ie6update.com

The sites I design are for really cool people so I rarely consider it . . . :roll:

But, as DJ so delicately mentioned, a lot of companies still use IE6. RBS (including Churchill, Tesco Insurance, Direct Line...) are all on IE6. It used to annoy the hell out of me at work. These companies also block Youtube, photobucket, ebay and pornhub... Crazy!

Anyhoo... I try to check new sites when I can but I will release without checking them (unless the client ois on IE6 :wink:)

At work we check FF2/3 - IE6/7 - Safari 3 - Opera (all on IE and Mac)... my balls ache just thinking about it!

Rob

Rob_Che
05-23-2009, 09:46 PM
I was the first to hit anything other than 'yes' - I'm so cool...

edbr
05-25-2009, 01:33 AM
I like the link.
i get your point dave and in all seriousness i probably wont. although as for libraries, cafes, lazy IT departments, if it caused enough users to complain it probably/might will cause a reaction.
as for third world countries , i live in one and if users have access to internet to see the sites they can presumably have access to updating .
it is akin IMO to thse this site ids best viewed with ff with at resolution bla bla. will probably be ignored but at least they have been told. i am still finding people that updating hasnt occoured to them.

Rob_Che
05-25-2009, 08:46 AM
i am still finding people that updating hasnt occoured to them.

Yep - I had a client recently who called me to tell me she kept getting a 'warning' from FF that a new version was available and she asked how could she turn it off? I asked why she didn't want to update... "erm... I just want the popup to go away"... Update the thing !

Corrosive
05-25-2009, 08:48 AM
Yep - I had a client recently who called me to tell me she kept getting a 'warning' from FF that a new version was available and she asked how could she turn it off? I asked why she didn't want to update... "erm... I just want the popup to go away"... Update the thing !

Ha, ha. Crazy! I like the way that Chrome just updates itself anyway. A much better system IMO. Means I don't have to worry about it.

coloeagle
05-28-2009, 05:35 AM
I like this topic. :) Nice to hear what others think about the browsers.

What about those businesses that use windows 2k? IE7 or 8 is not available for them so it isn't just a matter of doing a simple browser upgrade.

edbr
05-28-2009, 05:47 AM
What about those businesses that use windows 2k? IE7 or 8 is not available for them
well there you go, I did not realise that

Rob_Che
05-28-2009, 09:03 AM
I like this topic. :) Nice to hear what others think about the browsers.

What about those businesses that use windows 2k? IE7 or 8 is not available for them so it isn't just a matter of doing a simple browser upgrade.

I asked the same question when I worked at RBS. The problem is that they build systems (payment gateways, client detail storage etc etc) around a particular OS and to upgrade the OS may require software changes and/or downtime costing millions... I guess they only care if it runs the system they need - employees surfing the internerd is not on their priorities...

That's what I heard... (IT) bloke down the pub told me...

edbr
05-29-2009, 04:58 AM
i can sympathise with the if it aint broke dont fix it attitude, but as you say if it is a pain to the employees surfing for pleasure it is not going to upset the company.
i am still surprised that older windows versions cant update to newer ie versions though i would think it would just lead them to other browsers, if they are aware there is more choice than IE.