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up4dw
02-20-2009, 01:26 AM
I have several sites and several companies. I have manged to muck my way through enough to get some sites up and running. One in particular I am happy with most of the look and feel but want to go table less with css. I have a lot of little nit picky things that bother me as well. I am looking for sort of a go to teacher for a long term working relationship.

here is an example of a page I want to keep the look of while dumping the tables.

http://www.hardydiesel.com/diesel-generators/isuzu-powered-8-kw-diesel-generator.html


Loren

davidj
02-20-2009, 06:23 AM
the chances of finding a teacher in your vicinity is slim

whats your budget regarding one to one training

Corrosive
02-20-2009, 07:18 AM
I have several sites and several companies. I have manged to muck my way through enough to get some sites up and running. One in particular I am happy with most of the look and feel but want to go table less with css. I have a lot of little nit picky things that bother me as well. I am looking for sort of a go to teacher for a long term working relationship.

here is an example of a page I want to keep the look of while dumping the tables.

http://www.hardydiesel.com/diesel-generators/isuzu-powered-8-kw-diesel-generator.html


Loren

To be honest you probably just need a 'shove' in the right direction for an hour or so and then I think you'd probably be happy to go off and build on your knowledge by using the forum and some good tutorials. The first step in understanding what CSS is and does an then how to apply it to DW.

Rob_Che
02-20-2009, 12:37 PM
With all due respect, to rebuild that site in CSS would be very simple - in fact you would resolve a lot of the issues you have by using CSS.

This place is all you need - just fire questions day or night, there's often a reply within a few hours. The general rule is "struggle for no more than an hour before asking for help then moving on to something else..." :)

Rob

davidj
02-20-2009, 02:53 PM
ive been moving on to something else for the last 10 years!

Rob_Che
02-21-2009, 03:51 PM
I always wonder... who do the IT guys go to for help with computers? (it's certainly not the designers!)

davidj
02-21-2009, 05:23 PM
http://www.whiskyguild.com/glenmorangie/therange_sm.jpg

Rob_Che
02-21-2009, 08:50 PM
ah... tranquility.

up4dw
02-22-2009, 04:19 AM
davisj
I don't think vicinity is all that important. Time zone well maybe. remote desk top or go to my pc or even just phone consultation is kind of what I am thinking. Budget? I don't know what ever is fair. I am not a cheap bastard but can appreciate a good deal.

Corrosive
Yea I know but I just want someone to get me on the fast track. I am not looking for a career in web publishing just want to get what I want done done. I have businesses to run. On the other hand I know what I want and I need to be hands on.

Rob
for the most part my site is css driven however it is a mess. I have more than one style sheet.I even have some css in the template and on some of the pages here and there. Needs some tidy up. What I am referring to on the page is the tubular data. The tables getting rid of them and the bulky code. However I need to be able to add and remove cell like containers or blocks at will.

davidj
I hear what your sprayin only more like 25 years.

Rob Che
Yea know what you mean. I am the it guy at my companies.

davidj
I just want to tweak the look and add content and learn a little every day.

Maybe what i need is not a tutor but someone to clean up my act and teach me a thing or to in the process. Another words go in clean up my site, sites and help me to maintain best or at least good housekeeping and help me to understand why I have some of the problems I do. I have a lot to do and want to do it without the steep learning curve.

After I get www.hardydiesel.com cleaned up I want to do a very similar site for hardysolar.com. I have started it already www.hardysolar.com/solar-san-diego (http://www.hardysolar.com/solar-san-diego) I want to get rid of my x-cart and go html. Maybe add some basic cart features afrter the fact. My stuff is high dollar and most people wont buy without a phone call but some might. The most important thing is getting them there. I do good on google. try the term DIESEL GENERATOR in google. My goal is a site your grandfather could navigate with a 486 running windows 3.5

Loren

Rob_Che
02-22-2009, 07:49 AM
Maybe what i need is not a tutor but someone to clean up my act and teach me a thing or to in the process. Another words go in clean up my site, sites and help me to maintain best or at least good housekeeping and help me to understand why I have some of the problems I do. I have a lot to do and want to do it without the steep learning curve.

It sounds like time to hire a web guy :)You haven't mentioned budget yet but I can't imagine you will get what you need for free. We'll help, no problem but what you have planned sounds more involved.

RC

Corrosive
02-22-2009, 08:22 AM
I'd have to agree with Rob. Hire a local web designer who is happy to teach you bits and pieces along the way. Your site is not badly marked up at all. Some interesting use of break tags (never seen one used here before: <link href="/assets/style_sheets/styles1.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"><br>) but on the whole it is good.

I think your layout has some issues though, like the majority of the nav being at the foot of the page. You have to scroll down a long way to use it on some pages.

I'd suggest a redesign by a local designer but sticking to the basic elements/look of your design. Let them know that you are comfortable with DW and you will update it yourself once they have finished.

domedia
02-22-2009, 07:10 PM
hmm looks like you have two options.
1. Learn it yourself, thought here and online tutorials/books
2. Hav esomeone redesign soemthing for you which you can edit and use since you're hands on.

I think the choice might come down to the time you have available. If you;re a little slow now and have the time to learn, spend some time learn html, css and also some design. You're pages look good, but can look better :)

If you're busy and don't have so much time, have someone help you out.

up4dw
02-22-2009, 07:56 PM
Well if anyone is interested in doing a clean up for me pm me with a quote and scope. Would like a long term relationship going forward. I will always bee needing a little of this or that.

up4dw
02-22-2009, 08:10 PM
I'd have to agree with Rob. Hire a local web designer who is happy to teach you bits and pieces along the way. Your site is not badly marked up at all. Some interesting use of break tags (never seen one used here before: <link href="/assets/style_sheets/styles1.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"><br>) but on the whole it is good.

I think your layout has some issues though, like the majority of the nav being at the foot of the page. You have to scroll down a long way to use it on some pages.

I'd suggest a redesign by a local designer but sticking to the basic elements/look of your design. Let them know that you are comfortable with DW and you will update it yourself once they have finished.

That was cool getting rid of the <br> solved one of my nagging problems. Now today is a good day again. Thanks Corrosive

As far as the nav bar at the bottom. Relay inst even needed. The reason my index page is so long is key word placement for search engine. I doubt anyone ever reads anything past the product thumbs. I think people are mostly price shopping. The important thing is to get them there and make finding the price and the generators they need.

I could be wrong.

edbr
02-23-2009, 01:29 AM
keywords arent hugely important these days and there is supposed to be a lmit to about 200 characters advised, although im not convinced that matters, just doesnt help much

Corrosive
02-25-2009, 09:48 AM
That was cool getting rid of the <br> solved one of my nagging problems. Now today is a good day again. Thanks Corrosive



He, he. No problem :)