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01-26-2009, 01:27 PM
hi, my page looks fine on my server in firefox, but when i try it in internet explorer 6, the page is blank. any help greatly appreciated. i cant find any errors in code. (i didnt replace the tables because i was kind of in a hurry) derek

here is the link to my page.


here is the html/css for the page.

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">

<title>Derek Van Derven</title>
<style type="text/css">
#container {
margin: 0 auto 0 auto;
width: 800px;
/*height: 2200px;*/ /* LADYNRED FIX */
border: .3em solid #A2633E;
/* ladynred fix */
overflow: auto;

margin: 0; /* clear for browsers*/
padding: 0;
color: #B39551;
line-height: 1.5em;

div.img {
margin: 0 auto 0 auto;
border: 5px solid #B39551;
width: 649px;
overflow: auto;

p {
text-indent: 20px;
a:link {
color: #CC99CC;
a:visited {
color: #C88A37;
a:hover {
color: #CC0099;
a:active {
color: #CCCCCC;
.style1 {font-size: large}

margin: 0 auto 0 auto;

<div align="center">
<div id="container">
<span class="style1">Glazing </span>
Im going to improve my drawing skills by
doodling shapes on paper and copying them exactly. Also, I'm going to
have to do a lot of drawn self portraits with charcoal and white chalk
on toned paper. My drawing is poor so far, well maybe not poor but
definitely not as good as Nerdrum.

I decided to desaturate the color so you can focus on
the texture I am trying to achieve. </p>

<p >I decided not to sand, but I glazed black over the
whole head and scraped and wiped out the lights. I drew in with the
knife the tones of the eye into the glaze. Mine is obviously too
textured, but I think if I continue without using the knife this time
and only the brush, I will get the right texture, i hope....eventually..</p>
<table width="200" border="1">
<td><img src="hoodedglaze.jpg" width="600" height="800"></td>

<p>I dedided that the eyes in this head were done with light paint under glazed strokes, so I am put in thicker ligher strokes to define the eye shape, then I glazed black/brown over the whole head, wiped and scraped it out, then I brushed in thin black strokes with lots of medium to define the eye transparently, showing the rougher strokes underneath, having the effect of shattered glass or something. I am not sure how to proceed from here, because I don't want to ruin the glazed strokes with more opaque strokes on top. more layers to come...
<p>&nbsp; </p>
<table width="200" border="1">
<td><img src="hoodedglass.jpg" width="600" height="353"></td>

<p>OK, this was a big step for me, or a revelation. I knew the nerdrum head glowed more than mine, and that his texture had a &quot;fractured chaotic&quot; look to it. The color was very random and chaotic-fresh. So I decided to take my small nylon liner brush, dip it in cadmium yellow light and cadmium orange, and put TONS of turpentine into it, and let it drip down the head, constantly doing that, until I had thick runny streaks of yellowish glaze over the whole head, but that was not a uniform glaze (it was streaked and chaotic at spots). Then i dabbed pure turpentine (odorless mineral spirits) over the eyes and let it drip down, this had the effect of blurring the eyes without touching them or ruining the precious brush strokes and glaze. I washed in black in the mouth with the tiny brush overlaying the side of the lips to blur. The super turpentine drippy wash is super fun to paint with. I'm not too concerned with fat over lean. The washes turn practically into pure pigment on canvas.

Then i rebrushed black in the eyes very thinly with turpentine, and then with a small soft nylon fan brush I brushed in burnt umber in the background and on the hood , the glaze did not cover every area, it was more or less spotty or jagged, showing in wisps of color rather than a uniform glaze. That way, you get your warm-cool juxtoposition instead of superimposition. You want cool and warm mesh of color all over, that is Nerdrum's great trick. cool and warm pixellated color, almost like a photo would do it. I also put in the color of the background on the turning side of the nose. I am somewhat happy with the results of the eyes so far. </p>
<p>The drawing is off so I didn't put in the whole head yet. I remember reading that a contemporary of Rembrandt told his students &quot; you don't want to paint like Rembrandt, whose colors run down like mud&quot;.

I believe this means very overly washy glazes that run down the canvas and make slight streaks making a good interesting effect. The streak effect is VERY subtle, but has a better result than a straight glaze with oil. You can see below this is the first time I ever even approached Rembrandt. He uses a combination of light colors with washy glazes, and the black/brown glaze wipe outs often. And slightly thicker paint in the lights, brushstrokes following form, and in the eyes, he paints light form first, even in the would-be shadow areas, then glazes in the darks to create a great effect that is seen in my &quot;Rembrandty&quot; eyes below, the effect is that of shattered glass. No blending. Blending is done by subsequent applications after the layer is dry or half dry. I didn't sand this time, but I could if I needed to smooth it or bring out the lights again. I don't believe Nerdrum sanded much in this head. The photograph does not do my painting justice, nor does it bring any of them justice. Washing out the color and tone. I'm not sure if I'm going to stop here, I cant seem to get the same color glow as Nerdrum's head even when I glaze, and when i do glaze, I get afraid to lay any other opaque strokes down or I ruin the glaze. . </p>
<p> </p>
<p>I'm going to abandon this head copy now. I found a new medium that is helping me now and I'm going to use it in the next Nerdrum head copy. Nerdrum head copy 7.</p>

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<td><img src="rembrandt1.jpg" width="600" height="450"></td>
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01-26-2009, 02:30 PM
nevermind i fixed it. you can delete this post. sorry. thank you. derek

01-26-2009, 02:38 PM
nevermind i fixed it. you can delete this post. sorry. thank you. derek

Care to share Derek? It may be useful for others to hear how you fixed the problem.

01-26-2009, 09:12 PM
it wasnt really a great fix. im sorry i deleted it. that was a mistake, but anyway, i think it was a stray "<!-" at the top of my page, but im not sure, because i just pasted the bad page contents into a similar page that worked, and that fixed it. not the most professional , but hey im a newbie LOL. :mrgreen: