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computer
12-15-2006, 06:05 PM
Hi all,

I am trying to find out how to create a HTML email (newletter) with Dreamweaver to use/send it in Outlook Express.

Always thought one would need to buy a software program to create such emails, but now read that this is possible with Dreamweaver, which I have and use for a webpage, but never knew that there are funtions for HTML emails.

Who has experience with this and can give instructions :confused:

Many thanks for your ideas.

domedia
12-16-2006, 12:40 AM
Welcome to the forums computer!

1. Make sure all links and images are using an absolute path (all your images are located on the server).

2. In outlook
a) File->New->Mail Msg
b)Format ->Rich Text
c)View -> Source Edit
d) Click Source and paste in your source from DW.

Soad
12-16-2006, 06:57 AM
Thats cool, any idea how it works in Outlook 2003 ?

computer
12-16-2006, 10:00 AM
Hi Domedia,
Thank you for your instructions.

I have tried it, but though the text displays (from a test page) but no images, nor do the links to webpages work.
I got a one-off message at the beginning, something about ActiveX not being accepted or similar (unfortunately only got this message once and never again).

All my images are on the server I believe, as they are all uploaded.
I am not sure where I could change any settings for ActiveX?
I tried both, have images relative to the 'document' as well as to the 'root folder', both not making a difference in the Mail Msg.

Perhaps I just miss some tiny crucial setting or similar?:confused:
To test it, I just used one of my website pages, but nonetheless the links on that, should work, I guess.

Any idea where I am going wrong?

Appreciating your assistance.

domedia
12-16-2006, 10:51 PM
I tried both, have images relative to the 'document' as well as to the 'root folder', both not making a difference in the Mail Msg.

You need to use the absolute path to the server, as in <img src="http://www.yourdomain.com/image.gif">. Once the email is in someones email client, this is the only way that computer would know how to get the images.

chriskq
12-17-2006, 10:10 AM
Are you putting flash in your email that u send, as it will not play through the email client interface, eg: hotmail or outlook.
emails are best made in tables with inline styles and absolute image paths as dom mentioned, and it better not to use colspans either - instead embed tables.

domedia
12-17-2006, 07:48 PM
Excellent points. It's actually a bit disappointing in these web standard times that the best way to send html email is still to use tables, inline styles and even some depreciated attributes.

OT: chris did you check your PM?

neonfluxx
12-17-2006, 08:19 PM
okay, a couple of questions since i make these all the times. Are you using it as a stationary? or To Advertise? cause i can help with 2 very good ways of doing it.

edbr
12-20-2006, 01:57 AM
what are the 2 good ways? I would like to know.

neonfluxx
12-20-2006, 02:59 AM
The best way would be to use something like outlook or outlook express. can create the html like you would a page. I would use a width of no more that 780.. Now take the html file and the images folder and move it to c:\program files\common files\Microsoft Shared\Stationery


Now in outlook or express you can go to tools>options

in outlook: go to format tab and click the stationery drop down and choose the name of the html file you made. click okay. Then go to the new mail button like normal and the stationery will appear. You can even add text to the open space.

In express: go to the compose tab and go to the stationery heading in the middle of the page. Check mark the box that says mail and click the select button. Navigate to the html file you created then click apply>okay. Then go to the new mail button like normal and the stationery will appear. You can even add text to the open space.

This will create a stationery (html email) that can be used over and over again.

Hope this helps

ibmeubu
12-20-2006, 07:49 AM
Hi neonfluxx... thanks for that little email hint. I tried it and it worked like a charm. :)

neonfluxx
12-20-2006, 05:03 PM
did this help you edbr

edbr
12-21-2006, 01:04 AM
Yes inde,d thanks. saved me a fortune in christmas cards! I really had not thought about it before. I was thinking about a business promotion in the new year and this is a way to go I think

edbr
12-21-2006, 01:52 AM
I have been searching and have found this which as a guide line of what not to include in a mail

The following HTML tags should be removed from your HTML email, because several webmail applications and email clients are removing or ignoring these tags.

* DOCTYPE
* HTML tag <HTML></HTML>
* BODY tag <BODY></BODY>
* All Meta tags <META>
* Head tag <HEAD></HEAD>
* Base tag <BASE>
* Link tag <LINK>
* Script tag <SCRIPT></SCRIPT>
* Title tag <TITLE></TITLE>
* Applet tag <APPLET></APPLET>
* Frameset tag <FRAMESET></FRAMESET>
* Frame tag <FRAME>
* IFrame tag <IFRAME></IFRAME>
* Comments <!-- comments -->

Use tables for layout

neonfluxx
12-21-2006, 05:06 AM
hey domedia want a vtm on this. I can make one for you. Hey Ed, yes remove the doc type and meta tags. Link tags are fine. html are fine and body are fine. I researched extensively. I do html email for about 3 years now. Just so you know.

davidj
12-21-2006, 07:00 AM
all tutorials are welcome from our members

they would be reviewed of course before they went live but we are allways after new content

neonfluxx
12-22-2006, 02:22 AM
i will do some over the weekend to assist.

davidj
12-22-2006, 06:49 AM
now thats the level of help we need

thanks neon

domedia
12-22-2006, 04:38 PM
hey domedia want a vtm on this. Asbolutely! I'm still traveling a bit during the holidays, but any questions on VTM format etc can be directed to davidj in the interum. Thanks!

computer
12-25-2006, 06:11 PM
Many thanks all of you for your ideas, input and help.
I had some internet problems as the email notifyer didn't inform me about new post.

Anyway I now read through all of your hints and will try them,
thank you and Merry Christmas.

computer
12-25-2006, 06:13 PM
Very odd, my reply, just got posted into the wrong thread...

computer
12-25-2006, 06:14 PM
Many thanks all of you for your ideas, input and help.
I had some internet problems as the email notifyer didn't inform me about new post.
Anyway I now read through all of your hints and will try them,
thank you and Merry Christmas.

westmatrix99
03-16-2007, 11:21 AM
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MrsM
08-16-2007, 09:40 PM
Neonflux, THANK YOU.

I've been searching all day for how to make html email without having to buy in specialist software. I was sooooo close! But your tip about absolute URLs cracked it.

I've read loads of "instructions" today :roll: and yours are the only ones that work! I registered on this forum just so I could thank you! Keep up the good work, mine's another skin that you've saved today :grin:

Mrs M

neonfluxx
08-17-2007, 07:29 AM
I glad I could be of help. Thats what forums are for.:-D

chal7ds
01-24-2008, 05:02 AM
anybody know how to send an html message using gmail or aol, or both? those are the ones i have, and i'm wanting to do the same thing but i don't have outlook express.

davidj
01-24-2008, 10:44 AM
have you searched the forum

this has been covered before

domedia
01-24-2008, 03:45 PM
And don't crosspost please, asking one time is enough. No reason to bump this old thread.

chal7ds
01-24-2008, 08:38 PM
i did do a search actually, but everything i found was only covering outlook express. davidj, if you think you've seen it before, can you remember where? any keywords would help. i tried keywords like 'html email' and 'html email message with gmail' and such, but only got results that covered outlook express. if you could point me in the right direction that would be very helpful. thanks.

neonfluxx
01-25-2008, 12:38 AM
You can't do it with those kind of mail programs.

chal7ds
01-25-2008, 02:43 AM
but i've received html newsletter emails from other companies online in the past in my gmail and aol accounts, and i've seen the graphics and everything work?!? so?! it must be possible if they accomplished it.. ?

Cary
01-25-2008, 03:41 AM
it must be possible if they accomplished it.. ?

It's quite possible to send newsletters to those accounts, but not with them.

I've never tried Thunderbird (http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird/), but you might see if that works for sending tests.

neonfluxx
01-25-2008, 04:43 AM
Thats exactly right. what kind of computer do you have since you don't have outlook.

domedia
01-25-2008, 02:05 PM
You cannot create custom (handcode) HTML emails from online email clients like GMail and AOL. You can receive them just find though. Ither make a script that generate these email from you server side, or use Outlook Express.

chal7ds
01-25-2008, 05:35 PM
ok, check this out. i just installed and downloaded Outlook Express 2007. I tried using your instructions earlier inthis thread, but there is no "view" menu in Outlook 2007, so i'm assuming the manner in which you send an html message in Outlook 2007 is by a different method. Can you help me with those instructions please?

neonfluxx
01-25-2008, 07:12 PM
2007 is not advised as it uses the MS word render agent. You can thank the amazing minds of Microsoft screwing that up.

I would recommend Thunderbird. It's free and you can do html emails there.

We do not give step by step instructions here except via VTM and TUT. If you need personal instruction I recommend a good school.

We all had to learn, now it's your turn.

Good Luck,

chal7ds
01-25-2008, 08:48 PM
ok, i will try thunderbird.

domedia apparently gave the user 'computer' simple step by step instructions when he/she asked, and that was in this thread. should computer have gone to a school for just 4 or 5 lines of instructions? seems like kind've an extreme move to do after seeing how easy the steps were for that particular version.

thanks for the help and goodluck.

domedia
01-25-2008, 09:37 PM
Outlook 2007 cannot (or should not) be used for HTML email like neon said :-/
Never tried this with Thunderbird, although it's my primary email client. Have you looked into online web services like Constantcontact?

edbr
01-26-2008, 08:25 AM
got to say it again foxmail from foxmail.cn, (its in english) easiest template system for html an txt, can include images as attachments etc. free to download too

neonfluxx
01-26-2008, 06:41 PM
Why do people think we are here to just teach them all the time. Isn't the forum a basics center and then you learn on your own with helpful advise or am i just wrong?

domedia
01-27-2008, 05:01 PM
It's a little bit of everything I think :)