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ryz
09-30-2005, 10:46 AM
Hi Folks..
I need some real beginners info from ya'll. Basically I just bought MX 2004 in hope that it would be that simple & I could pick it up and within minutes I would have a fully functional singing and dancing website, well I was wrong.

I have a few questions that are of nursery caliber, but everyones gotta start somewhere so here goes....(some of the terminology might be off but hopefully you will still understand)

1. Why do we need to bother with tables / template ? can I not design a whole website as one image in fireworks then transfer it and add links to other webpages?
2. I have tried to design a site with a template, but when importing images from fireworks my template seems to expand in length or width although it should be a flush fit, why does it do this?
3. Also can you recommend any good websites with real beginner tuturials?

I'd appreciate the help.

Jim_Shady
09-30-2005, 12:09 PM
Hey there.

1) Tables are used to organise the content of your page. They can shrink and expand depending on the size of your site. You COULD do as you suggest but making an 'image site' of only images is not a good idea. Perhaps someone else would explain in more depth than I could on that front...?

Tenplates are used if say the header bar of your site should be the same everywhere. Then when you want to change the heading of each page you just change the template and it should - (often doesn't!) - update all of your pages.

2) Do some reading on designing webites using Cascading Style Sheets (CSS). CSS is the way that most websites are moving to - and if you want to be in the game then thats what you need to learn first. In CSS all the syling and placement of images on a page is in an external file called 'yourfile.css'. You then link the page that you are creating to that CSS file. It's dead simple once you learn how.

Tutorials? Sorry - sure someone else will have a better idea than me...

Shady.

domedia
09-30-2005, 01:42 PM
hi riz and welcome :)

Making a website is a relatively hard thing to do. I think all your questions are merged in your #3, you need to sit down with the manual and some tutorials before you do anything further. http://www.dw-fw-beginners.com/tutorials/ ('http://www.dw-fw-beginners.com/tutorials/') has some nice beginner tutorials.

bkendall
09-30-2005, 03:54 PM
One of the things that helped me when I first began in html (I still do this from time to time) was to surf and when I found a site that I found particularly stunning, I would view the source and study how they structured the page. as your going through tutorials and the manual it good to see some real world examples outside of the practice pages that you create in the lesson.

Good luck and let everyone know how your progressing, I for one am always willing to help out folks just getting started.

ryz
09-30-2005, 04:11 PM
cool thanks for the advice, I'll keep you posted.

ranjan
09-30-2005, 09:48 PM
can I not design a whole website as one image in fireworks then transfer it and add links to other webpages?

The first mistake almost all beginners make is that they consider the web to be another graphics medium (like print). The web serves a larger audience than print does. In the print industry anybody that can "view" your page layout is your audience.

In contrast the web audience can "view", "hear", "read" your page.

Audience that "view" are people like you and me.
Audience that "hear" are usually blind or cannot use keyboard and/or mouse
Audience that "read" are usually search engine robots and other computer programs

An image can only be "viewed". By making the page in fireworks and just adding links you are shutting off the disabled and search engines.

Why do we need to bother with tables / template ?

Tables are used to layout your site. To hold the images in place so that they appear seamless to a viewer.

Templates are used to reduce your work. Most times the layout of a website remains the same across pages, only the textual content changes. Templates can lock the stuff that never changes and let you create more pages based on it where you can edit only the content

I have tried to design a site with a template, but when importing images from fireworks my template seems to expand in length or width although it should be a flush fit, why does it do this?

This is because you have not yet understood how tables work. Once you undertand that you will have answered your own question. The tutorial below will explain how tables work

http://great-web-sights.com/tutorial/tables/tables.html ('http://great-web-sights.com/tutorial/tables/tables.html')

Also can you recommend any good websites with real beginner tuturials?


First things first: learn HTML and basic CSS. If you learn what DW does behind your back you can control DW much better. Remember you bought dreamweaver because you want to put it to work and not the other way around. If you dont know HTML DW will make you work. W3schools have good tutorials on HTML and CSS

http://www.w3schools.com/ ('http://www.w3schools.com/')

ranjan
10-01-2005, 04:50 PM
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